| Country of origin | Australia |
When it comes to vegan dog food in Australia I find Veganpet is probably your best option. I’m not a fan of vegan diets for an animal I consider a facultative carnivore, but I know you’re not here for me to pass judgement.
Assuming I can’t convince you otherwise, let’s take a pragmatic look at Veganpet and why you may choose the brand for your dog.
A brief history of Veganpet
Veganpet was founded by Sandy Anderson in the early 2000s, with an aim to offer Australians a more ethical vegan alternative to common brands of pet food.
My view of many pet foods in Australia is negative based on poor quality, and it has to be said the assumption most pet foods are meat-based is factually incorrect. Most are largely grain-based, and usually poor quality inclusions at that.
With this reasoning, it’s understandable a dog may be healthier on a vegan pet food which uses better quality ingredients, but I’ll leave it to you to consider if they would be better off than on a raw meat, organs, and bones diet which many would argue is natural and instinctive for a dog to eat.
Let’s put a face to the name, and introduce you to Sandy Anderson in this short video:
Key points from the video include the involvement of Professor Nick Costa of Murdoch University in Perth, who has recently focused research on the role of blank soldier fly larvae in pet food which may or may not appeal to you as a more ethical animal-based protein and fat source.
I would like to offer Veganpet credibility in handling a recall event circa 2018. Sadly incidents do occur with pet food, and it says a lot about a company when they tackle those issues in a manor which respects us as consumers and puts our dogs first.
Veganpet were affected by an issue with mycotoxins in corn which led to a condition megaesophagus in dogs. The issue was dealt with immediately, consumers notified, and the cause was quickly researched and linked to corn as an ingredient in Veganpet at the time. The product was reformulated promptly, which is why you will find no corn in the food today.
(Other vegan dog foods in Australia still use corn, or “maize”, by the way)
Earlier that year another Australian pet food brand was affected by the same issue – Mars brand Advance Dermocare.
Dermocare was a very popular brand amongst Australian consumers, breeders, and often marketed at dog shows. Despite myself stipulating it was almost entirely corn-based, this resulted in wrath from numerous Australians who seemed to trust the brand implicitly.
Mars were very slow to react to issues when numerous Australian dogs and a group of Police Dogs fell sick on the brand. Despite Mars earning billions in turnover, and being integrated with Melbourne University U-Vet who were tasked to find the correlation between Dermocare and megaesophagus, seemed unable to find the cause.
That’s what they told us, anyway. They were stumped.
In addition, Mars were part of an investigation by the Australian senate into the safety of pet food which was kicked off in part by our involvement in publicising issues in the Australian pet food industry with the help of ABC 7.30.
In contrast, it took no time at all for Veganpet to rectify what could’ve been a far more damaging problem.
I realise I’ve written at length on this topic, but the crux point is this – Would you rather feed a pet food from a company who put the health of your dog first, or a company who will attempt to sweep issues under the carpet and treat your dog as collateral damage?
Ethics go a long way in my book.
What do the ingredients say?
You could argue a dog food made mostly of wheat, a token amount of pea protein, and some rapeseed oil could make up the bulk of a vegan dog food, but that wouldn’t be good for your dog, would it?
The ingredients of Veganpet are a well considered mix, a combination of soy (I believe human grade), pea protein, faba beans, chickpeas, ground rice, and flax yeast.
The first four of those ingredients you may know to be good sources of protein, and your dog will benefit more from protein than the high amount of carbohydrates found in most “meat-based” dog foods.
Rice (we can assume is white rice) is one of the most digestible grains for a dog, and flax yeast is a good source of omega 3 fatty acids to support your dog’s skin and coat and overall wellbeing.
When we look at the guaranteed analysis we find 26% protein which is higher than average for a dry dog food (more protein is always good), and a moderate 14% fat. Some high end meat-based dry dog foods have upwards of 30% protein and 20% fat, which in turn means much less carbohydrates which your dog doesn’t necessarily need.
There’s four other ingredients worth mentioning, and these should keep your dog’s skin and coat looking good – cold pressed organic coconut, sunflower and flax oil, and linoleic acid. These should also support heart health and immunity amongst other health-related benefits.
It’s nice to see Veganpet meets AAFCO standards for a “complete and balanced” dog food. It’s an American standard, but we use it in Australia because we don’t have our own. We don’t have much in the way of standards at all.
I have to say I find the price per kilo of Veganpet high in comparison to other dog food brands, but in turn you will hopefully have a vegan dog food made of better quality ingredients. If you are adamant in feeding your dog a vegan diet, then I would recommend ensuring they have the best vegan diet possible.
Where can you buy Veganpet?
Veganpet dog food is available to buy at a number of outlets or direct from their website.
Ingredients
Ingredients of Veganpet dog food:
Soy, Pea Protein, Faba Beans, Chickpea, Ground Rice, Flax Yeast, cold pressed organic coconut, sunflower and flax oil. Linoleic Acid, (c18:2n-6) AA(C20:4n-6) DHA(C22:6n-3)EPA(C20:5n-3) vitamins. Minerals, Amino Acids, FOS, Yucca Schidigera, Dicalcium Phosphate, Prebiotics, L-Lysine, DL-Methionine, Arginine, Histidine,
Isoleucine, Leucine, Phenylalanine, L-Tryptophan, Threonine, Valine, Taurine, Glutamine, L-Carnitine, Choline,
Vitamins A, D, E, C, B1(Thiamin) B2(Riboflavin) Niacin, biotin, Pantothenic Acid, B6(Pyridoxine) Vitamin B12(Cobalamin)Folic Acid, Calcium Propionate, Potassium chloride, Phosphorus, Iron, Zinc, Copper, Manganese, Iodine, Selenium, Cobalt, Ronozyme A.
Guaranteed analysis
Guaranteed analysis of Veganpet dog food:
| Protein | (min) 26% |
| Fat | (min) 14% |
| Fiber | (max) 4% |
| Carbohydrates * | (max) 42% (estimated) |
References
- Vegan pet food triggers meaty debate
- https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-25/lack-of-regulation-in-the-pet-food-industry/103609836
I’ve fed my rescue Kelpie Mac Veganpet for 8 years – it is 98% of his diet. I’ve that time I have had his blood work done at the vet 4 times (the most recent was early 2024 when I had his teeth cleaned for the 2nd time – he does eat a non-vegan dental chew every day)
Every time his blood work has come back in the initially skeptical vets words “perfect” – to the point of laughingly saying “I have had to reconsider my opinion on plant based diets for dogs”
Mac is 11 – routinely surprising all who meet him and ask his age (he’s mistaken for many years younger)
He’s had zero health issues, he runs with me up to 20km a time – still
jumping in and out of the back of the car with ease – and can run as fast as I can race him with my mountain bike for a km!
Dogs can and do thrive on this dog food – including the newer formulation (2023) *they don’t use corn anymore – due to a bad batch and subsequent recall 2-3 years ago.
That’s great to hear Jan, and I must update this old review to the new formula without delay.
I remember the mycotoxins from corn issues all too well, mostly from the Advance Dermocare saga, but subsequently to a much lesser extent with Veganpet. Credit where credit is due, Mars Petcare with the help of Melbourne University U-Vet failed to substantiate why the Dermocare product, made mostly from corn, was causing megaesophagus. It took Veganpet no time at all to find the cause, and they rectified the situation immediately.
My cats have been eating vegan food since they were kittens in 2011.
You are listing old ingredients? The formula has improved several times since. Several vets have approved of this food, I’m going to liisten to them and people like Dr Andrew Knight instead of someone like yourself with a clear bias towards meat and uneccessary animal cruelty.
I’m honoured to have Sir Isaac Newton take the time to leave a comment, negative or not.
The review has since been updated to reflect the new ingredients.
As for Dr Andrew Knight, you will find information here on how his latest study into meat-based versus vegan “cat foods” failed to account for most kibble not being meat-based but grain or starch based, for factually carnivorous cats. The study found many cats, whether grain-fed or vegan-fed, suffered health conditions.
Not valid research, sadly, and I hope if Dr Andrew Knight reads this he spends University money on a better study in the future, such as Raw fed cats versus vegan fed cats.
Thanks PFR i love this pet food site, lots of great information, GOOD JOB, WELL DONE.
Unfortunately,this review of VeganPet is misguiding and outdated.
If you wish to learn more about the balanced diet VeganPet can provide for your
dog or cat, please go direct to their website.
Fortunately we live in a society where individuals have the freedom to express and follow
their own beliefs. Some people do not like to have meat or meat based products
in their homes, be it for ethical, religious or medical reasons. Prior to
VeganPet being offered on the market, pets in vegetarian homes risked missing
key nutrients and a balanced diet. Over a decade of research and development
has gone in to the VeganPet products and they continue to improve each
year.
I personally am not a vegetarian but I feed VeganPet to my two miniature
dachshunds, since feeding it their skin allergies and digestive issues have
gone away that they experienced on some of the other more expensive pet
foods.
I urge anyone to complete
thorough research and choose a dog food that is best suited to you and your
pets health
My pets aren’t vegan but i’m interested in the topic. It’s disappointing that the owner of this site has lashed out at you with insults. The animals at Edgar’s Mission are vegan and extremely healthy. Ruby just turned 13. Owner of this website also posted a link to an article about a vegan cat that was ill from being fed potatoes and pasta (as if it backs up their claims, idk). If we as humans lived on potatoes and pasta, we’d get sick too! That’s not a suitable diet for any person or animal and those owners clearly uneducated on nutrition.
Admin – please stop deleting my post.
What is being deleted? I see all 5 copies of the same thing you’ve posted here.
Curiously a nutter passed through a few days ago who was also confused and imagining that his/her stuff was being deleted when they were just redundantly duplicating the same post. You two wouldn’t be related by chance?
Today I’ve learned the importance of nutrition on mental health
XD
All,
Unfortunately, this review of VeganPet is misguiding and outdated.
If you wish to learn more about the balanced diet VeganPet can provide for your dog or cat, please go direct to their website.
Fortunately we live in a society where individuals have the freedom to express and follow their own beliefs. Some people do not like to have meat or meat based products in their homes, be it for ethical, religious or medical reasons. Prior to VeganPet being offered on the market, pets in vegetarian homes risked missing key nutrients and a balanced diet. Over a decade of research and development has gone in to the VeganPet products and they continue to improve each year.
I personally am not a vegetarian but I feed VeganPet to my two miniature dachshunds, since feeding it their skin allergies and digestive issues have gone away that they experienced on some of the other more expensive pet foods.
I urge anyone to complete thorough research and choose a dog food that is best suited to you and your pets health.
Have you joined “Australian Canine Megaesophagus Group”on f/b
see all the recent cases of ME, 17 dogs thats just some of the dogs we know off who were eating Vegan Pet kibble, read all the poor dogs who have became ill suffering with ME, 2 dogs from same family are very ill & poor owner is stuck with BIG vet bills now.
There’s something wrong with Veganpet food ingredients, maybe ingredient need to be sourced from a new supplier, it needs to be taken off shelves until they find out whats wrong with Veganpet, is it High in Toxins??
Australian PET FOODS NEED TO BE REGULATED so our pet foods can be recalled & not left up to owner of the Pet food to do the recall as they never do..
Rotate your dog foods NEVER fed the same brand 24/7 year after year, if you want to feed vegan pet food stick with the bigger well know pet food companies like Royal Canin HP wet & dry kibble made Europe – France have very strict quality control laws & Purina H/A or start reintroducing ingredients to dog diet & see what ingredients your dog can eat & is sensitive too??
A lot of people confuse Seasonal Environment allergies with food sensitivities or dog suffers with both keep a diary you’ll start to see a pattern as the seasons return.
Yes I heard about this. It was due to infected crops and the food was recalled immediately.
If you don’t want to have meat or meat based products in home, don’t get for yourself pet that eat meat. Simple as that.
You do realise the oldest dog in the world was vegan
The oldest dog recorded was Bluey, an Australian cattle dog who lived to 29 years. I believe the dog you’re referring to is Bramble the Border Collie who lived on a vegan diet until 25 years.
I think the biggest fact we can take from these two dogs is neither was fed a commercial dog food.
Hi Jayne,
a dogs intestinal tract is short, made to quickly digest raw meat diet, then move into the small bowel, then large bowel then a pooh, nice quick before any bacteria from the raw meat can start to breed, a dogs digestive tract wasn’t made to digest fermentable carbs & dry processed kibble, humans have a larger intestinal tract that can digest fermentable foods….Do you know back in the 40’s 50’s, 60’s, 70’s & 80″s our dogs were living longer & were healthier, out of 100 dogs only 1 dog would get cancer, now more & more dogs are feed dry over processed kibble 2 in 3 dogs are dying from cancer, kibbles are high in contaminates & toxins….Dogs lived longer & had less health problems when they were feed what humans ate, table scraps, left overs etc, then in the 90″s Kibble companies started telling us dogs need to eat dry kibble it’s healthier & tables scraps shouldn’t be feed to dogs, dry processed kibble started to boom then the grain free kibble was born & the kibble companies told everyone dogs should be eating a grain free kibble with no grains & people listened…..
Miniature Dachshunds suffer with leg & hip problems as they age, they should be eating a healthy diet high in Omega 3 fatty acids for their joints, bones, skin, coat, heart, brain etc
Have a look at “Meals For Mutts” new Vital Health CN Holistic Hypoallergenic Turkey & Vegetables dry formula, MFM’s kibbles are high in omega 3, 6 and 9 as well as essential amino acids, high in pro-biotics and beta glucans to raise immunity and digestive health,
low sodium, calcium and magnesium content improves your dog’s urinary health.
very low in protein, the CN Turkey & Vegetable formula only is 16%min -protein, at least you’ll know they’re eating beter ingredients that has no soy, corn, no fillers..
You shoud be rotating foods/kibbles, feed a few different brands of dry kibbles also adding fresh whole foods to your dogs diet, I cant see how eating this Veganpet ingredients the dog will stay healthy, read the MfM CN Turkey formula below, these ingredients look heaps healthier….MfM CN Holistic Hypoallergenic formula’s also comes in Fish formula… Sold thru “My Pet Warehouse” & Pet Stores…Slowly introduce with old kibble over 7-10 days….You could slowley introduce the MfM CN Kibble then feed 1 of their meals the MFM CN formula then their other meal feed the Veganpet formula & see which kibble your dogs want to eat, let them decide…..
MEALS FOR MUTTS | CLINICAL NUTRITION VITAL HEALTH HOLISTIC DIET | 2.5kg
Ingredients*: Turkey meat, seasonal vegetables (broccoli, zucchini, bok choy, peas) ground brown rice, quinoa, beans, spinach, sweet potato, parsley, natural fats & oils derived from turkey, omega 3,6 & 9, coconut oil, yeast cell extract, kelp, vitamins A, C, D3, K, B1, B2, B6, B12, niacin, pantothenic acid, folacin, biotin, natural organic acids, plus minerals, calcium, phosphorus, sodium, copper, zinc, iron, manganese, and iodine. Also contains Yucca Shidigera extract and natural flavours, and is preserved using natural vitamin E and rosemary extract. This food does not contain any sugar (as sucrose) and is free of dairy products.
Pet Food is correct, I had to go over almost every ingredient list to find a food for a friends pup and all of them have at least 1-2 of the same ingredients. In other words I never found any food for her pup, every formula had at least 1 ingredient he couldn’t have. So her best bet would be to feed a food he’s partially allergic too, as long as he’s not in pain like he is with chicken. Of course picking up soft poos can either be better or worse for some people.
Hi Jayne, the skin allergies cleared up in your dogs because, like many other foods, this food doesn’t contain common allergens (namely wheat). There’s nothing miraculous about this.
People always say “This [vegan/grain free/expensive prescription diet] is wonderful because it cured my dog’s allergies”, when what they really should be saying is how the previous food was so bad it caused the allergies. It results in millions of pet owners throwing huge amounts of cash at Hills and Royal Canin et al because they think there’s some kind of magic ingrained in extortionately priced extruded corn pellets.
Thankfully vegan foods have progressed. I’m aware many previous renditions of vegan diets (and homemade vegan diets) lacked in essentials such as taurine, problematic with both dogs and cats.
For goodness sake PFR please clean up this page , it’s discussing rubbish, the whole page needs to be deleted , stop the swearing , and block rude people,
I won’t be reading reviews for quite some time now.
Hi Caroline, I’ve deleted all posts by the offending user and banned them from further commenting. I wanted to give them a chance to rectify their comments and provide valuable and constructive input instead.
Hi Caroline, the page will be cleaned up.
Maybe something more mainstream like a vet nursing qualification would be easier to achieve close to home? It may not be the exact field you eventually want to get into, but you’d have a recognised qualification and perhaps a foothold in the industry.
Funny thing I’ll say now is I tried out for that they said okay, my nerve flared and I never made it to the course but what caused me to never try it again was what I saw at the vet and how it affected me, the dog was screaming and I was crying lol, I also heard you need to clean out dog cages, yeah if you want me to add my own vomit to that sure. I read a few horror stories of starting out as a vet nurse and I just couldn’t bring myself to do it, that and what I mentioned above. Putting animals to sleep and you have to understand every medication and it’s dosage, like f**k haha.
I need something easy sailing, something that I already know and understand and that will simply give me a qualification. Not that it will suddenly mean that everyone believes it, I could be lying, not that I ever would but people don’t know that.
Hmm I’m not sure if there are any qualifications out there that can be simply claimed by anyone on the internet, and if there were, would you really want to be one of them? Yesterday I bumped into a small raw food outlet who include ‘nutritional advice’ in their list of services, and after a quick search there seems to be plenty of people out there doing this on a non-professional basis more or less. Maybe you can act as a ghostwriter for one of these small outfits as a stepping stone to something greater?
First part of the reply is misunderstanding, I just meant in general a nutrition course so I can get the papers and if people need me to show it I can, but it doesn’t mean they’d believe it because you know how internet people are these days.
Truly awful actually, they say not to believe anything on the internet which is wrong because there’s sites like this that provide real info and help, plus many other ones, just takes time to find the right one. They then go into a fit of rage when you suggest their dog food which has an online website that they’ve read and believed the irony lol is a flop and that their lying to get more money.
But I had been thinking about being like a nutritionist for a company, someone they ask questions and I convey an answer to, could be good, but again not sure they’d even be able to hire someone without a qualification, after all if I say something and something bad happens it’s on me.
Because we also know that pet parents tend to fly off the rails when something happens that usually has nothing to do with what they happened to change on that day that I told them to change. Adding too much, changing too quickly, a sudden appearance of pancreatitis that my food made appear but it was already festering below the surface, I have a website I saved that takes this into a little bit of detail, essentially learned something new. But yeah general issues that weren’t because of me, but rather that pet parents mistake.
Either way it’s one of the jobs if they even pay you, not quiet sure about that anyways it’s one of the ones I think about the most.
“Petfood Reviews”
You’ve only got this page to make money from all the ads you’ve whored yourself out to.
Under the guise that you actually give a shit about animals!
Some people actually care about all the animals in the world – especially the ones abused at the hands of greedy men – Greedy like you! They’re called Vegans! ^_^
Ima find out the truth and take the time to research various products myself. Cos my baby is worth his weight in turquoise and silver – Gold ain’t my thing.
I applaud everyone else that comes on here to promote making a difference in the lives of all animals – and has the mind to think for themselves. And not be swayed by just one review. Cos guess what? This douchebag isn’t getting paid by Veganpet! So his M.O. is to get you to buy anything owned by the companies that sponser him.
Peace. Out.
“Petfood Reviews”
You’ve only got this page to make money from all the ads you’ve whored yourself out to.
Under the guise that you actually give a shit about animals!
Some people actually care about all the animals in the world – especially the ones abused at the hands of greedy men – Greedy like you! They’re called Vegans! ^_^
Ima find out the truth and take the time to research various products myself. Cos my baby is worth his weight in turquoise and silver – Gold ain’t my thing.
I applaud everyone else that comes on here to promote making a difference in the lives of all animals – and has the mind to think for themselves. And not be swayed by just one review. Cos guess what? This douchebag isn’t getting paid by Veganpet! So his M.O. is to get you to buy anything owned by the companies that sponser him.
Peace. Out.
Luna, the reason this website exists is because I give a shit about animals. I’ve helped many.
If you think it’s right to feed your dog a vegan diet then make your own. The worst vegan diet you can feed is something like this day after day. Don’t do it.
If you’re offended at people who believe a dog should eat meat then you’re going to be offended at a lot of people.
Did you assume I’m a butcherous neanderthal who’s pro animal abuse? If so you’re widely mistaken.
Yes, there are ads. Sorry about that, it’s the nature of the internet. Do you have a job, and if so do you get paid for it? If you do then that kinda makes you a hypocrite, don’t you think? I don’t take money from manufacturers, and none of the reviews are biased. Veganpet isn’t a good food, sorry about that.
Everyone on here YouTube: ‘DAIRY IS SCARY’ and ‘What’s wrong with eggs?’
It will change your life.
Luna, before I ban you from this website for the use of embarrasingly foul language, I’d like to say a few things.
Firstly, for someone with something to say and a passion, you really are failing. You’re a prime example, sadly, of why people like you fail. Where others read How to Win Friends and Influence People you must’ve read How to Antagonise People Like a Foul Mouthed Eejit.
If you have something important to say, say it like a grown up. Insulting people is the clearest indication you’ve failed.
This is a community, and as a community you are welcome to stay and contribute, but contribute in a productive manner. I urge you to clean up your comments, and I welcome you to stay.
Holy shit, I really should’ve finished reading your comment! There’s actually a book called “How to Win Friends and Influence People”???
And people ACTUALLY feel the NEED to read it?! …Like the bible?!
And I’M the one who’s embarrassing *jaw drops* ……wow…..
I am actually being 100% serious here…
O .O
“…And How To Influence People”???!!!
What, LIKE HITLER??!! –
I’m actually truly disconcerted right now.. Bordering on scared! Don’t worry… I don’t think I want to post a single more response to your here thread, let alone revisit this site – for any given reason!
THAT IS JUST WARPED!
And I guess you don’t like some of the best observational comedians who are even more imaginative with some of their words than I am. No sense of humour… NATURALLY you’re going to have a tough time accepting reality.
“Reality is nourishment, but people don’t believe it. I guess it’s hard to stomach the truth, like a bulimic. It’s a dirty game, and nobody is willing to clean it.”
Sorry if I hurt your feelings by making it so obvious that I’ve no interest in being your “friend”. There are more important things out there to care about than your popularity.
And just to further clarify – I was never trying to pedal an ideal to these people. I don’t have a gimmick. I’m real. It’s not for my benefit you all watch and share these videos but for the animals of the world.
I don’t preach shit. I merely inform.
Good day to you sir.
Fail at what? Making “friends”?? How is any of what you claim I’m “failing” at important, when it CLEARLY isn’t even my aim?!
Go ahead ban me under the guise it’s for my use of “foul language” on the whole one or two posts in which anything of the like was even used.
Seems people like you can’t stand uncensored unrestrained free-thinking individuals period. So don’t even try sell me pretense trying to justify exactly what I knew you would do before you even did. ~ Save it for the suckers.
Continue through life close-minded never learning anything past your highest level of education if that even seeped in. With your lack of interest in all animal welfare – I’m apart of the cure. – You’re apart of the disease.
Thank you for your apology about hurting my feelings but don’t fret. I was slightly put out by the Hitler reference though, that struck a nerve. In my late teens I grew what I thought was a really funky moustache, but it instigated a spat of bullying and being called Hitler for a number of months. It was a painful period in my life I don’t wish to remember, and I hate that guy for the damage he did to the moustache.
Yes, you’re being banned for use of foul language. Other people read this, perhaps even children, and in my book people should be more educated and less vulgar. You’re also being banned for being an idiot and an embarrassing spokesperson for the vegan feeding community who I’m sure don’t wish to be regarded as such.
My dog is thriving on a vegetarian diet, my vet agrees.
Hi Frances, how old is your greyhound and how long has she been fed a vegetarian diet? Is she an active greyhound?
Going by one of your other comments I realise you’re feeding her a lot of fresh foods with nutritional merit, which is a good thing, but you’re wrong about dogs being an omnivore. They’re classed as a scavenging carnivore, which means their digestive system is designed to eat and digest meat but they’ve adapted to eat other foods as well. Humans are omnivores, dogs aren’t. Dogs require a full amino acid profile to retain health, and this can only be provided by feeding meat. This is scientific fact.
I agree with your other comment that meat products contain crap and toxins. This is an inherent problem with the pet food industry, and one of the driving factors for raw feeders. Given the fresh foods you’ve been feeding your dog it is quite possible her health is better than millions of dogs who’re fed commercial dry dog foods, but it doesn’t mean you’re feeding her the right diet.
With all respect to your vet, he (or she) is not trained in animal nutrition, and saying a dog is thriving is a belief ascertained from a perspective of their current condition and coat.
Hi there, my vet does not know my dog is vegetarian; I can’t be bothered listening to another lecture on the so called ‘evils’ of not feeding my dog meat.
I agree there is much debate around the carnivore/omnivore question. I don’t really care about this much; I care my pooch gets the best nutrition, I don’t believe meat is the only pathway, so I disagree with you that a full amino acid profile can only be provided by feeding my dog hormone enriched, toxic, terrified meat.
Maya is 12 months old.
Empirical evidence supports the veg/vegan dog. I know dogs who have been vegan all their lives, old dogs, happy, healthy old dogs.
In terms of your comment on the ‘right’ diet, well for me this is an unfolding thing for us.
Maya scavenges food, carrots for instance, she makes the choice and shows her delight in eating such foods, she loves fruit!
The food I cook for her is reinforced with add ons like Taurine etc.
I research and talk with others to ensure she gets what she needs.
Thanks for you concern and input.
Fran.
Thanks for your input Fran. Although I disagree I think the main thing is you’ve put research in. I would recommend further research of amino acids.
My concerns about the dire quality of most commercial brands of dog and cat food far outweigh those feeding a well researched fresh food diet.
I would appreciate any information you may have that would enlighten me re amino acids
This could be a starting point, with some references at the bottom – http://www.howtofeedadog.com/nutrition/are-dogs-carnivores-or-omnivores/
Thanks, a good read. Maya is not vegan as I feed her Paneer cheese and an egg every two weeks. Have to admit I am still not sure about her uptake of amino acids so will continue to research.
Thanks Fran.
An interesting website showing what foods give what amino acids if you haven’t found it already. Dog food advisor has its moments, even if the people within it are d**ks haha.
https://www.exploratorium.edu/cooking/meat/INT-proteins.html
Great info V, thanks. I’ve taken the information and comprised a more thorough list for dogs and cats – http://www.howtofeedadog.com/nutrition/essential-amino-acids-for-dogs-and-cats/
Thanks for this Edanna.
Fran.
Hi Fran, here’s the same list Edanna posted. I’ve included Arginine as a further essential amino acid for dogs, and Taurine for cats. It’s worth noting dogs have been found to be taurine deficient on commercial dry foods which lack meat, so when formulating a vegetarian or vegan diet this should also be considered. Taurine is only available from meat and dairy products.
http://www.howtofeedadog.com/nutrition/essential-amino-acids-for-dogs-and-cats/
Hi, Maya has had L Taurine 100% pharmaceutical grade supplements since 12 weeks old.
Why on earth would someone feed their DOG a vegan diet. Is this a joke?
Unfortunately social media gives people a false sense of what is right. The justification in the vegan dog feeding community seems to be meat-eating dogs get sick and/or die from a plethora of ailments, whereas a select few who have fed their “healthy” dog vegan for years haven’t. What they neglect to consider is millions of meat-eating dogs do live happy, healthy lives.
The thing is, we are able to cook foods for them in a way that makes vegan foods ‘viable’. A dog couldn’t do that for themselves, they work in a way that is able to be far more easily digested than if those foods were raw. Stool tests show that amino acids in vegan kibble can actually be very well digested. There are some key advantages, such as lower dioxins and some heavy metals that accumulate up the food chain… I wish we hadn’t polluted the hell out of this Earth…
Anyway, it looks like the main ingredients have improved slightly for VeganPet since this was written, with a lower reliance on Soy…
Yep I agree :)!
Scary isn’t it. And even worse considering that it’s a trend on the rise. To be fair, I’m aware of a few vegetarian/vegan folks who consciously choose to feed meats – they’re not happy about it but as adults they understand that this comes with the territory and they put the needs of the animal above their own desire to make a statement. Total respect for those guys. Not so much for those that overlook the herbivorous pet options that *are* available and instead choose a carnivore while hoping to re-engineer its design to conform to the latest fad.
Trend is on the rise because the fear mongering from the meat industry isn’t working as effectively as it used to. People are waking up to the fact that we have been conned by the meat industry into believing we have to eat MEAT or we will die! Not True.
We don’t, dogs do.
I have had a few dogs in my lifetime, Stella died of heart disease, muffin died of heart disease, Skippy had crippling scoliosis, Sooty died of cancer. I once knew a vet who was an older person, he said don’t feed you dogs any red meat at all. He confirmed he had seen marked improvement in dogs with arthritis when only fed chicken soup, minimal chicken with lots of vegetables.
I would like to know what kind of breeds your dogs were. Some breeds due to “selective” breeding have more health issues than others. Also feeding meat and feeding vegan are two totally different things. If you were to buy supermarket crap or even Hills or Royal Canin I’d say your pet is probably better off eating home cooked vegetables with chicken. But, if you feed a good quality biscuit or raw food diet like Ziwi Peak, Balanced Life etc. I don’t see a reason for a dog to eat Vegan
Stella was a dingo X border collie, Sootie a kelpie X, Muffin a chihuahua X terrier, Skippy a schiperkee x pomeranian. All rescue dogs. I don’t know if it was the toxicity in meat that caused their problems, so I am not suggesting meat eating dogs are more prone to disease. I just believe a veg diet with careful consideration to adding essential amino acids, vit D and B is a viable way to feed and keep my dogs healthy.
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Hello, My Jack Russel has been vegetarian for 10 years now and he is the healthiest dog in the street. I have had 3 meat dogs and he is by far the healthiest. My son and daughter work at a vet and they see the diseases and problems meat eating pets get. Our dog has managed to miss most of these as yet. Including cancer, arthritis cataracts and heaps of other problems. I am very happy with the VEGAN DOG FOOD I bought the other week. Phantom loves it too and I will be purchasing a carton today. He likes the tins and the dry food.
Hi Jenny, yes my whippet is a very happy healthy girl. Loves her food especially her fruit bowl she gets before every veg meal. Thanks for your post, so few of us to counter the meat eating fear mongering I encounter every time I talk about my veg doggie.
Hi Jenny, when you refer to “diseases and problems in meat eating dogs” are you referring to dogs who eat fresh raw or those that eat commercial manufactured dry food with “meat” in it? There’s a vast difference. A vegan diet does not provide a dog (or cat) all essential amino acids for them to retain health, whereas a meat diet does. That isn’t to say a dog fed a vegan diet will be less healthy than a dog fed one of the many poorly formulated high carbohydrate dry diets, but meat is essential for carnivorous animals.
Furthermore, there’s enough scientific evidence to prove that eating meat – pellet, minced, however the fuck you wana eat it! Is linked to causing various cancers. Ergo, a vegan diet is a far healthier one.
You see there’s this thing called the internet.. and such thing as news programs that discuss matters more pressing than your favourite footballer’s jockstrap.
Oh and just to add,
Isn’t meat the most expensive item on your grocery list? Wake-up those animals aren’t treated with humanity cos it’s a fucking business! It’s ALL about the money – NOT your health and wellbeing! Pfft! You think those making billions at the suffering of millions of animals ACTUALLY give a shit about YOU?! That’s a charade honey!
Just like how cigarettes used to be über healthy! Use your mind a while and actually think – if that’s possible?
Have you seen footage of all the horrific abuse those animals go through so people like you can suck from the titties of a cow instead of her baby? As she cries for weeks for her baby?? RSPCA’s bullshit lies with saying the chickens that are actually trapped in battery cages are starved for anything up to 14 days so they lay egg after egg to go with your bacon and in the products you eat!! Youtube footage of people normal people once like you actually going to dairy or egg farms seeing what goes on leaving crying, being sick after what they saw and swearing and turning to a vegan lifestyle! You think that’s just to be self righteous…? Or ’cause THEY ACTUALLY CARE!
So who are you so highly educated and trained – and devoid of all factual information on this topic, hm?
My dog would do anything for cucumber, loves fresh fruit and vegetables – know why? Same reason I do – They are fucking delicious and packed full of nutrients. So long as you ensure your dog’s diet consists of enough protein, fibre, etc. omega 3, and NOT too much omega 6’s nor starch nor fillers or any other bullshit they’ll be right as rain. But as with humans they may have pre-existing conditions like my dog’s sensitive tummy (causing constant diarrhea) WHICH it might interest you to know, the VET COULDN’T CURE with their expensive tests and prescription foods (which all the nutrients where baked out of anyway, and included ingredients NO GOOD for my babe). But I did my research – trusting THE RIGHT SOURCES – and found that 100% NATURAL Slippery Elm powder right from the bark mixed in with water and consumed with his THEN raw food diet did the trick. But you know what, I wouldn’t be surprised if transitioning him to eventually 100% vegan eating (as soon as humanly possible) makes a world of difference to his health – as it does to humans.
So quit with the propaganda already.
If you gave a fuck about animals you wouldn’t support the torture of them for the big corporations to make more money of at your expense and WAY MORE IMPORTANTLY: THE FOREVER TORTURED FARMED ANIMALS !
Hi Luna, I’m trying to pick out the elements of your comments which have merit and could prove useful for others. With the slippery elm powder from the bark, do you mix it with cold water from the tap or brewed in a cauldron while chanting wuthering heights and dancing around in a black cloak?
Thank you so much for this review! It has helped us enormously. You are awesome
Dear All,
Unfortunately,this review of VeganPet is misguiding and outdated.
If you wish to learn more about the balanced diet VeganPet can provide for your
dog or cat, please go direct to their website.
Fortunately we live in a society where individuals have the freedom to express and follow
their own beliefs. Some people do not like to have meat or meat based products
in their homes, be it for ethical, religious or medical reasons. Prior to
VeganPet being offered on the market, pets in vegetarian homes risked missing
key nutrients and a balanced diet. Over a decade of research and development
has gone in to the VeganPet products and they continue to improve each
year.
I personally am not a vegetarian but I feed VeganPet to my two miniature
dachshunds, since feeding it their skin allergies and digestive issues have
gone away that they experienced on some of the other more expensive pet
foods.
I urge anyone to complete
thorough research and choose a dog food that is best suited to you and your
pets health
l am really happy to have been helpful. l would never ever feed my dog meat. Phantom is 11 this August. He is the most friendly dog, he loves people and thank you.
You do realize that dogs are carnivores right. They have teeth that are meant for chopping meat, not grinding vegetable matter and grains. Would you give rabbits or guinea pigs meat..? No. Seed eating birds meat..no. So why feed your dog purely vegetables and grains when they are not built to eat that.
I have a whippet and she is thriving on a veg diet, beautiful shiny coat, boundless energy, I give her hemp seed oil which has the purest and highest levels of omega 3 and 6, nutritional yeast and vitamins and minerals sups along with probiotics. She eats carrots, watermelon, banana, cauli and broccoli RAW. So funny, a very happy healthy dog.
Yep I’m with you :). Like for example if I put my dog in the same room as a chicken they would become friends so why do we feed meat to our dogs? We don’t live in the caves anymore nor are they Wild dogs.. But I do agree that this vege dog food is not an accurate healthy food… Other company’s might be better :).
Frances, your dog may appear healthy on a vegetarian/vegan diet but the fact still stands that a dog is a carnivore and should have meat in their diet. There are plenty of preservatives in commercial pet food, why do you think the cheap meat at the supermarket is so red? It’s not suppose to sit on a shelf for weeks at a time. Now I know not everyone is like me and not everyone has access to farm fresh meat when they need it but buying human grade cuts of meat for your dog should not be an issue at all. Not to mention there are plenty of organic options in meat available for you and your pet so feeding meat should be an option. Don’t forget, plenty of pesticides are used for vegetables as well so unless you’re growing it yourself or buying the best organic stuff you might as well be feeding your pet toxins as you so put it.
Hi Jacki, thanks for your reply, I always by organic veg and I am very fussy regarding anything my dog eats. I am an animal advocate and have witnessed first had what our farm animals go through so we and our pets can eat them. So much pain suffered by so many beautiful animals. No, I am happy for my dog to live for as long as she does on a veg diet. As I said in earlier tweets I have had a few dogs throughout my life who all had to be euthanised for one reason or another, cancer, heart disease etc, who knows what the answer is to this debate on meat or no meat, I don’t know but my dog is healthy and happy and she will never have meat pass her lovely lips. What those who feed their dogs meat need to know is that many dogs are vegetarians but these stories are not told online. Probably because many advocates of a meat diet take the high moral ground and are often very abusive.
I’ve watched how they get slaughtered in all the different ways, you know halal and stuff like that, none of it is pleasant or by the book the way it’s meant to be their’s a select few who do it right but with how much meat Americans and Australians eat it just isn’t feasible to kill in such a way.
Those RSPCA approved slaughterhouses are just as bad as the halal certified ones, monsters all of them, I just wish more people would listen, I’ve mentioned it a few times but it seems people prefer to brush it off and be the ignorance is bliss versions of themselves.
I’m not vegan or vegetarian myself nor are my dogs but I’m not meat hungry either, I’m more into veggies and bread these days then I am into meat + with so many other sources of natural iron that I am digesting in my teas I have no real need for meat at all.
About the only meat I eat now is a polish recipe as were polish and it’s either minced meat, kind of like meatballs but much tastier or mince meat wrapped in cabbage.
I guess I also tend to enjoy the tinned spaghetti with sausages heh.
I think it’s better to be meat restrictive let’s say then be like those people who eat it 24/7.
And then you have the freedom to choose to go further from there and people should be happy for you, not condescending like many people appear to be, after all it’s your beliefs, values and body and your money not theirs, so in essence it’s not for them to worry about.
The way you’re typing is implying that all meat eating dogs will get these diseases. I have a Siberian Husky who is 11 years old and has had nothing but a meat based diet and a good one known as Ziwi Peak. She too is very healthy and has a lot of energy, she also has no cancer, arthritis or cataracts. I too work at a veterinary clinic. I also know that dogs have a shorter digestive tract than us and they can process meat based proteins much easier than they can process vegetable base ones. In my opinion if you feed your dog and especially your cat a vegan based diet, you are an idiot. No other argument needed, they are not vegetarians nor are they vegans.
If you yourself are a vegetarian or vegan then that is fine, I have nothing against that as humans can process vegetable proteins very well, unfortunately your carnivorous pet can’t.
Hm Jacki dear, you seem to be more insterested in arguing than discussing actual facts. Now your Husky – Glad you felt it necessary to impress upon us her breed, which was already easy enough to make out given your dp btw. Great job! – Is how old now, 11 (so you say). Just like humans you see, one of the leading causes of death that comes with old age is in fact cancer of some description(s) – in which case, should there come the time, I think it safe to assume you’ll put her on Prednisone.. which won’t just be eating away at her cancer cells. She’d prolly die within a week or so, depending on how long it takes you to pick on it, her genetics and so forth.
Lemme guess, you got her from a breeder/petshop or puppy farm, right? High five! Like there aren’t enough dogs stuck in a cage at rescues.. You a backyard breeder too? ANYWAY!
We all like to assume every vet knows exactly what to do, and that it’s not a racket but that they slave night and day for their love of animals.. but honey, you ain’t seen a SLAVE until you’ve watched ‘DAIRY IS SCARY’ and ‘What’s wrong with eggs?’ On YouTube.
Because hey, if you did give a shit about animals – You wouldn’t be supporting the torture of them by purchasing products with dairy, eggs, or meat in ’em.
You would find alternative ways to ensure your HUSKY gets all the nutrients she needs. Which isn’t that hard. There’s also such thing as natural supplements.
Or don’t you know?
Read my other responses to mis/uninformed comments made by other ignoramus’ such as yourself. Or as you appropriately projected the term, “idiot”s.
Wow. Just wow. You’ve seemed to of made quite a few friends on this discussion forum Luna, you’ve had a busy day typing away, I’m surprised you’ve had any time to save those animals you love so much.
I don’t know how owning a husky is impressive but my dogs and I will take that as a compliment. Yes I got her from a breeder but heres a shocking twist you obviously don’t know about me even though you seem to know every detail about my life. My other two dogs are both rescue dogs from a shelter but you obviously don’t care about that because my first dog is from those nasty nasty breeders.
I’m glad you’ve made your presence on this forum, it makes me smile to know there are people out there like you. I’m assuming you’re probably a PETA supporter as well… what a shame. I hope you enjoy your time here, your messages to myself and everyone else on this forum has made my night.
Yes! I could not have said it better myself ! Some people seem to think that because our dogs have a roof over their heads and eat out of bowls that they are human beings like us. They still are a totally different species to us, are built differently and have totally different nutrient requirements. It’s not rocket science! Lol
Wow they’re a different species? They’re not humans, really?
Pray tell all the different nutritional requirements dogs have that we as humans don’t!
I’m so eager to learn! 🙂
They are omnivores.
A dog is a scavenging carnivore, not an omnivore. I’ll take the time to explain the crux of the issue.
Corporate manufacturers want you to believe a dog is an omnivore for one simple reason – producing plant-based dog foods is much cheaper than meat-based pet foods. Given your other comments I believe you’re the type of person to be against corporate marketing or having the wool pulled over your eyes.
Let’s talk science for a moment. A cat is an obligate carnivore. There are a number of reasons we know this, but one significant reason is the length of their digestive tract. A herbivore will have a long digestive tract, but a cat has a short digestive tract. Meats are digested faster than other foodstuffs, which means cats are unable to efficiently digest anything except meats.
Humans have a longer digestive tract which allows us to digest more foods, but it’s not long enough for us to be herbivores. That’s why we don’t eat grass – we can’t digest it.
The digestive tract of a dog is longer than a cats but shorter than a humans. This is one of the reasons of confusion as to whether a dog is a carnivore or omnivore. As said above, manufacturers (with their huge marketing budget and influence) want you to believe dogs are omnivores.
More recent studies (re Dr. Wouter Hendriks of Utrect University, Netherlands) introduce another perspective “coefficient of fermentation”. This shows that despite a cat having a shorter intestine it is also thicker, so when compared to the slightly longer and thinner intestine of a dog, they are more similar than we previously realised. This suggests a dog is further on the carnivore scale than we were previously led to believe.
l have had 3 meat eating dogs. Phantom is the healthiest dog. We add plant protein powder to his meals. Humans have a long intestines does that mean we shouldnt eat meat?
l think you are a very rude person.
Then I am a very rude person. The fact is that your dog is a carnivore and should not be eating a vegan diet. The fact that you have to add protein powder to his meals just proves my point that this food is lacking in substance. Humans do have long intestines but they are also no match for a true herbivore which is why our teeth aren’t all flat molars for grinding food down. We are omnivores, your dog is a carnivore and you should feed it meat.
Very caring and very rude are two different things, I get his point though, I’m kind of sick and tired of people not listening to things like recalls and continuing to feed food that’s clearly tainted, that and other things as well. I want to be a holistic Nutritionist but truth be told I’m not sure it’s the right job for me and my short fuse, I get angry faster then a pack of bees protecting their nest when people don’t listen and I absolutely hate being ignored like my mum does when I’m not feeling well she just ignores and changes the subject and it’s like if I can’t speak to you about it then who the hell can I speak to?
You could say I care too damn much lol, I will get so angry I start swearing if people start disagreeing with things that they clearly don’t know anything about because they just told me they didn’t by saying they trust the company and depending on which one that is that could be a very very bad idea.
Usually it’s the bad companies and they trust the tv ads which are created specifically aimed at your emotions to pull you in, food should be affordable, good quality and shouldn’t have very much marketing behind it if at all.
6 years I’ve been reading about pet food, everything about it the companies, the ingredients, the abuse of pets and people, the ones that try to emotion you into buying their corn based foods, the vets who will gladly make you feel bad to the point of crying, just to sell their goods and the list goes on and on, thousands of websites, making my way through the hundreds of fake websites and so on, it’s tough and brutal even though it’s not hands on, what you see, you can’t unsee ever, you just have to move on and I do it because I love doing it regardless of what I see, but do I want to truly do it as a career at the end of the day? I’m seriously unsure.
Also I’ve been taking note that brutal honesty based on brutal truth can be seriously painful and seen as rude also, but it’s far from it, we’re just so easy to make angry these days that anything we don’t agree with can go literally F itself.
It’s becoming an out of control trend amongst people and it’s making it hard to confront people for fear of being yelled at or misunderstood, especially joking, can’t do that on games anymore because everyone takes me seriously, how boring it has gotten, can’t even relax on a game and joke anymore.
Come on Jacki, get with the program daddyo! Let’s do some vegan math here because it’s always fun. One dog who has survived to 11 + no illnesses yet + he’s “the most friendly dog” + “he loves people” + some kids who “work at a vet” and see sick non-vegan dogs coming in every day = data!
Now mix with 3 cups of political opinion, add 3 parts of partisan “scientific” web links, a dose of comfortable inner-urban cluelessness, splash in some “deep down I care more about changing the world than the wellbeing of my pet”, bake in an echo chamber and serve in any blog comment section that will permit this tripe. Woops, ‘soy-based tripe substitute’.
You have your dick so far up your own arse -you’re that pleased with your pathetic responses- that you don’t even notice all the shit pouring out of your asshole.
While I read it, I cringe… Cos it sounds like a fucking cascade!
Think you need a buttplug or something..
Do they come in ‘Moby Dick’ sizing?
I wouldn’t know, but I should really find out. Cos then I could run around town doing my ‘public service’ by stopping all the shit the millions like you ‘ave got oozing down the streets.
Lol vegans.
It seems I have my … lodged in my … but there is a simultaneous torrent of #2 coming out so a giant buttplug is also required (hey not a horsehair one I hope!) to stem the flow. Wow, when do you turn 12?
I think I’d better quote this literary masterpiece for posterity. It would be a shame if it disappeared and deprived others of an insight into the vegan activist mind 🙂
On Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:48 PM Luna Maguire wrote:
You have your dick so far up your own arse -you’re that pleased with
your pathetic responses- that you don’t even notice all the shit pouring
out of your asshole.
While I read it, I cringe… Cos it sounds like a fucking cascade!
Think you need a buttplug or something..
Do they come in ‘Moby Dick’ sizing?
I wouldn’t know, but I should really find out. Cos then I could run
around town doing my ‘public service’ by stopping all the shit the
millions like you ‘ave got oozing down the streets.
Haha!! Wow. You are an angry person aren’t you?
Alan. Your reply is the best thing I’ve read.
I’m rightly guessing you’ve never picked up a book.
Or was ‘Spot’ as far as you got?
I do hope you’ll stop by and post here more often. Firsthand experience from the front lines is sooo valuable when people are essentially discussing a theoretical topic. “I read xyz on a website populated by xyz activists. I think it’s cool. It sounds cool. Best of all it feels cool. It must be cool! Ok pooch, strap on your skates, you’re my test subject!”
Your replies are sometimes truly “something” haha, with this one there’s a lot of “huh?” though and scratching teh head XD.
Really? hmm I didn’t think it was *that* abstract.
It was interesting to say the least, but I did get lost a few times, such is the maze of Alan.
You were replying to Jenny, not Jacki…?
Jenny’s the lady who benefits from easy on the intake odour-free soy-based tripe substitute.
Oh yes, that’s right!
Only intelligent people make unfounded assumptions of others.
Some people actually care about all the animals in the world – especially the ones abused at the hands of greedy men!
You’ve only got this page to make money from all the ads you’ve whored yourself out to. Under the guise that you actually give a shit about animals!
Yes, though it’s a tough choice reading some of the heartbreaking characters who have responded to this article elsewhere. I’m sure Jacki understands the score, she sounds sensible.
Sadly I get these other ‘Jenny’ types so often nowadays and they just scare the hell out of me. If it’s not diet it’s vaccinations. If it’s not vaccinations it’s GI parasites. If it’s not GI parasites it’s ticks/fleas. I just feel sorry for the dogs who have to put up with this sort of experimental crap. If they were human children there would be a good chance of an agency swooping in and taking the poor buggers away from the freaky influence, but nobody cares if you torture dogs/cats as long as you do it slowly 🙁
this review of VeganPet is misguiding and outdated.
If you wish to learn more about the balanced diet VeganPet can provide for your
dog or cat, please go direct to their website.
Fortunately we live in a society where individuals have the freedom to express and follow
their own beliefs. Some people do not like to have meat or meat based products
in their homes, be it for ethical, religious or medical reasons. Prior to
VeganPet being offered on the market, pets in vegetarian homes risked missing
key nutrients and a balanced diet. Over a decade of research and development
has gone in to the VeganPet products and they continue to improve each
year.
I personally am not a vegetarian but I feed VeganPet to my two miniature
dachshunds, since feeding it their skin allergies and digestive issues have
gone away that they experienced on some of the other more expensive pet
foods.
I urge anyone to complete
thorough research and choose a dog food that is best suited to you and your
pets health
Yeah, cos it’s not already well clear enough how truly backward you are.
Do you even look into what’s in those injections, your poor dog’s food, how the animals are treated, how nutrients are baked out at high temperatures, all the starches, overuse of omega 6’s and what that does to a dogs body, ETC! There’s a fucking wealth of information you’ve never bothered to look into cos YOU DON’T REALLY GIVE A SHIT. Just feed your kid fruit loops their whole lives and wonder why their teeth keep falling out – fuckwit!
Keep sucking Jacki’s dick! Cos she “a vet” who doesn’t know shit about actual nutrition. Maybe if you keep complimenting her every comment like a mindless drone who clearly can’t think for himself, she’ll put-out for you down the road you so obviously lonely, lowly, dickless so-and-so!
You reek of CREEP!
Wow. How dare you assume my gender!!
Bill Hicks once coined the fabulous quote “Non smokers die every day”.
But then he died. From smoking.
Frontier Pet have brought a organic farm breed pork & beef freeze dried dog food also Big Dog has brought out a Organic raw diet a few pet food companies are bringing out organic pet foods now…….It doesn’t take rocket science to make a organic balanced pet food… Why anyone would impose their vegan beliefs on a poor dog or cat especially is beyond me, it’s cruel & sad.. these dog love their meat.. Google Frontier Pet link & watch their video….
I could see Angel being especially depressed if she were to be on a vegan diet, every time we give her Rusty’s food she makes a huge mess trying to remove the meat from the veggies and rice, she leaves everything behind except the meat.
If you want a vegan pet buy a guinea pig or a rabbit.
“A vegan pet”? Is that what someone clearly as clever as you would refer to as a domesticated animal that choses not to support the horrific endless torture of farmed animals by making wise dietary decisions to try and end the perpetual cruelty before the slaughter? …’cause I don’t think dogs, etc. however domesticated – or bright – have the mental capacity to think at the same level of a human with the slightest bit of intelligence. Because in case you haven’t noticed. The brain of a dog is very different to that of a human. – Unless we’re talking about your’s which seems to have an even lower capacity to process and detect than that of my dog. Oh my gosh! That makes you quite something of a miracle! 😮
It’s one carnivorous-bible-bashing moron after another on this thread!
Are you retarded? What are you on about? Mind you I wouldn’t expect any more from a vegan, your brain has probably been starved from a solid diet of eating veggies you’ve found in the rubbish, I’m surprised you don’t pass out from lack of oxygen from sniffing your smug vegan farts all day long. Look, I’ll spell it out for you, oh mentally disabled one, DOGS. ARE. PREDATORS. They don’t go around gathering grain and nibbling on lentils in the wild, they’ve EVOLVED TO EAT MEAT. If people want to be self-righteous, hypocritical and often just downright nasty vegans that’s their problem, but to subject animals who are natural predators to their own personal views is no less than animal abuse.
I’ll further break it down for you.. cos educating the less mentally-developed/subhumans is fun.. am I “retarded?” Glad you asked. See you’re in fact the one who – made it clear yourself in your response – can’t even comprehend that
I WAS MOCKING YOU.
Why?
Let me spell it out for YOU.
In your comment you basically said ‘Well don’t ‘get’ a dog if you care about the welfare of ALL animals’ THAT’S WHAT BEING A VEGAN ACTUALLY IS. It’s not about being angry or self-righteous. It’s about being PASSIONATE ABOUT DOING ALL YOU CAN TO STOP THE SUFFERING OF ANIMALS BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT ALL OF THEM.
Not just the one’s you are LUCKY ENOUGH to have.
So in your anger all you’ve done is project. People always seem to when they feel stupid. They get angry and project the frustrations they have with themselves onto the person or people they feel has revealed them for what they truly are: Dumb. Hateful of what they don’t understand.
Ignorant.
THE TRUTH ONLY HURTS WHEN IT’S TRUE
Goodbye now.
If they were real predators they’d be out in the wild. Out in the wild the prey of a predator is devoured for survival, and not TORTURED for the enjoyment of sadists nor mushed into products for the sole purpose of making millions.
Smug? That’s a new one. Guess it’s easy enough for you to spell though! 🙂
I’m not endorsing this product nor promoting malnutrition for what you refer to merely as “pets”. I’m exploring alternatives for my gorgeous baby so I can live with myself cos thankfully I’m nothing like the apathetic piece of shit you are. – I actually care about ANIMAL WELFARE. Ever heard of it? Ain’t in your school books bitch. And the torture of these millions of beautiful cows, chickens and the like tears my fucking heart to shreds. But what would you know about that, huh? Too busy taking selfiez and watching the kardashians condescend to homeless men.
Thanks btw your stereotypical single-minded “anti-vegan” response proves how truly worthless you, along with your opinions are.
But hey, at least you’ve always got your ‘don’t care about what’s not hurting me’ lame-ass, ignorant attitude, and most of all – your hate.
^_^
First of all, you don’t know anything about me, but it’s pretty obvious that you’re a completely retarded, brain dead, bleeding heart, uneducated freak. I suppose you cry whenever your biofuel smartcar runs over a grasshopper. I can guarantee I know a million times more about animals and the natural world than yourself, you’ve exposed yourself as both unintelligent and a proponent of animal abuse BY NEGLECT. It is NEGLECT not to feed animals their natural diet and truly selfish to project your own personal views onto the life of animals. I truly hope you don’t have any pets, honestly I’d rather be dead than be a pet of yours. It’s people like you that give vegans a bad name, you do your own cause more damage with your intense stupidity and rabid rhetoric. FYI there are wild and feral dogs roaming throughout the world including Australia and guess what? The majority of their diet is from PREY ANIMALS, that they HUNT. You’ll be petitioning the zoos to make lions vegan next, and we can watch them all waste away into starved desperate wraiths, similar to yourself. Have a great day dumbass!
Oh, and here’s my post they continue to delete. Enjoy.
“Petfood Reviews”
You’ve only got this page to make money from all the ads you’ve whored yourself out to.
Under the guise that you actually give a shit about animals!
Some people actually care about all the animals in the world – especially the ones abused at the hands of greedy men – Greedy like you! They’re called Vegans! ^_^
Ima find out the truth and take the time to research various products myself. Cos my baby is worth his weight in turquoise and silver – Gold ain’t my thing.
I applaud everyone else that comes on here to promote making a difference in the lives of all animals – and has the mind to think for themselves. And not be swayed by just one review. Cos guess what? This douchebag isn’t getting paid by Veganpet! So his M.O. is to get you to buy anything owned by the companies that sponser him.
Peace. Out.
And you Jacinta.. you’ll always have your hate.
So enjoy that too, won’t you 🙂
Bahahahah you crack me up! :’D
I obviously hit a nerve. But what did I say about the truth already, hey! What I have is compassion for ALL animals.
Did you have to google the word ‘rhetoric’? Because if you could read and understand what it is you are reading you’d realise that I ACTUALLY haven’t used any. Haha ahhh
There you go projecting again -calling ME a “dumbass”. Bet you think zoos where wild animals ie. Tigers, lions etc. Are confined in small cages where they have no room to run great distances – which is what they’d be able to do in a couple humane sanctuaries I’ve seen – which is one of their many instincts along with eating “prey”. Theirs of which I wish you were lol. Ever even NOTICE the big cats pacing back and forth, and wonder WHY? They ARE wasting away, and for people like YOU – with 12 year old mentality. There for YOUR AMUSEMENT. Sure they get fed. So they can survive another day of “SHOWTIME: Time to make us subhuman’s more moneyyy!!!”
Wake-up already you’re boring me here. I’ve already made my point.
Lol and you think you know what a Vegan really is – after your aforementioned, derivative generalisations of ’em. I am a Vegan, so unlike you, I know what I’m talking about. But go on continue to bore us with the oh so vast knowledge you believe you have where it comes to animals. Or don’t cos I’m not even interested. *yawn*
Accept the truth. You don’t know shit. But I however, will continue to discover it.
Wow, there’s a lot of hate in you.
If that’s in fact, IRONICALLY, directed at me well then I must correct you there. Being passionate, aware of truth, well-spoken, and blunt is by ACTUAL definition vastly different to being hateful.
Ask Jacinta about hate – She knows all about it, that one. Oh wait, no she doesn’t.. As her’s is clearly WELL subconscious.
P.S. I capitalise merely to emphasise certain words – due to the lack of being able to use italics on this thing. …Not cos I be yelling.
Geez you’re boring!
“Boring” yes that I ALREADY said YOU are! Ffs quit biting my words already. You’re like a damn parrot – ‘cept pure ugly on the inside. – Bogan, amirite?
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Have you even tried this product? Do you own any animals? I came here to read a review of a product I’m thinking of buying… I didn’t come here to read an uneducated opinion full of assumptions and biases. Who reviews a product they haven’t even tried? Oh, some anti-vegan person who is happy to buy tinned dog food with euthanised animals as the main ingredient and pretend like that’s the healthiest option! lol. Ever wondered why they say dog and cat food isn’t suitable for human consumption? Well, now you know. This brand is very open about it being a short term alternative… I think you missed that piece of information whilst you were blinded with rage by the mere existence of a vegan brand. Good luck to you, Sir!
Hi Alexis, I’m not blinded by rage and I support any person who chooses to be vegan. My personal opinion is it’s not right to impose a vegan diet on a carnivorous animal. That’s an opinion of logic not anger.
Why is Veganpet a short term alternative?
If you read the review of V-Dog you’ll see it’s been rated 3 stars, which is an unbiased rating based on the ingredients – https://www.petfoodreviews.com.au/dry-dog-food/v-dog/
I’m fully aware of the difference in quality between pet grade and human grade, and also the loose regulations which mean euthanised animals can and do end up in pet foods. If you read other reviews you’ll realise I’m not an advocate of this, in fact quite the opposite.
Soy doesn’t contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen and it only has positive effects on the body unless consumed in high doses of around 10-14 servings unless you’re allergic. We’ve been eating it for well over 3000 years.
An article is not a study. Plenty of studies show soy does not affect the thyroid in whole form and even with protein powder. However, it can affect how thyroid medication is absorbed, but even then, there is no concern about normal servings.
The same with so-called “anti-nutrients” these help “protect against and treat some types of cancer. Many can help boost the immune system. Tannins specifically have been found to help slow or prevent the growth of fungi, bacteria, and viruses that can cause illness”.
Dogs are also omnivores, not carnivores.
I would classify dogs as facultative carnivores rather than the get out clause “omnivore”. Their digestive system is not dissimilar to a cats, and cats are factually carnivore. In contrast, the digestive system of a dog is vastly different to our own as omnivores.
Hi Zarze, all constructive comments are welcome and appreciated.
Where nutrients are sourced is very relevant. The amino acid profile in meat ingredients differs significantly in make up from plant ingredients. This is highly relevant for carnivorous animals who have a shorter digestive tract than humans.
Only comments that agree with the reviewer are allowed on this ridiculous biased platform. Ridiculous.
Hi Zarze,
All constructive comments are welcome and appreciated. Your first comment didn’t appear straight away as any website link needs approval.
Where nutrients are sourced is very relevant. The amino acid profile in meat ingredients differs significantly in make up from plant ingredients. This is highly relevant for carnivorous animals with a shorter digestive tract than humans.
If people want to feed their cats or dogs vegan I don’t really care, however at the very least create a decent vegan food! I’m sure that soy and corn don’t need to be added, I’m sure there’s plenty of other better options.
Yes, well this is only ONE douchebag’s review of only ONE brand of vegan pet food. And from this ONE review from some person you don’t even know yet chew all his shite up – He (I’m presuming) is trying to turn you from ALL other vegan options – as if they’re all shite. Which is not the case. Do your research if you actually care about ALL animals – not just yourself and your own.
Period point blank.
I have no idea what your on about but please continue I’ll get the popcorn, I also have 6 years of research and today I spent all day looking up dog food ingredients and reviews because it’s fun.
There is a great deal of living proof that a veg or vegan diet is perfectly fine for our dog friends. Most of what I hear against this evidence is reactionary and biased.
The human race has a lot to answer to for our use and abuse of animals; we use them for food, trap them for entertainment, unfairly hunt them, use cruel farming practices, we torture them, abuse them and show no respect for their sentience.
Many humans are indifferent to the fear and pain we cause other animals, we are disconnected from our hearts when it comes to many animals, a disconnect that carries enormous karmic weight.
In Australia I have witnessed our farm animals, sheep and cows, being herded into trucks, crushed up against one another, then driven to a dock where they are herded onto ships, again crushed in. I have heard their cries, seems their eyes bulging in fear. They then are shipped to Indonesia or the Middle East, at least 200 will die from heat exhaustion on the journey, many will be crushed, other will break limbs, their suffering is unimaginable. Once arrived at their destination they face another wave of torture in the abattoirs. We know they are deliberately tortured, have their eyes gouged out for fun, their legs broken by laughing workers and on and on it goes. So if it’s not your health you are concerned about in consuming animals then it should be that by eating them you are supporting unspeakable cruelty to many animals that are vegetarian themselves, they hurt no one.
typical female veg/vegan response dogs are carnivores and need meat to sustain a healthy lifestyle and why compare live export to dog food you are another one of those people that stir up shit and demonstrate at loading docks so stick your views up your anus and use it as an enema cause your so full of it !!!!
Well said.
These meat-eating men /women that protest veganism are merely ignorant and arrogant – so set in their out-dated beliefs and traditions – so much so they couldn’t give a fuck about the abhorrent torture that these poor bleedin’ animals go through their whole lives til slaughter.
Fuck them.
Maybe they should try something like researching into the abuse and actually caring about something other than themselves before mouthing off with their blinkers on.
Anyone who thinks a vegan diet is acceptable for a dog or cat should not be allowed to own an animal.
Another moron who doesn’t even know what it is to be vegan, and the countless benefits – that don’t only ‘lend’ themselves to humans.
What a joke for these people to even think they can impose their “vegan” on nature
Your name is “Stupid people” … well for one your grammar is shite. Should read ‘Stupid Person’
You can thank me for your newfound tidbit of knowledge later.
Wouldn’t want to overload such a small, closed-off mind with such fear of ‘catching’ “Vegan” –
There’s just far too many animals out there for people like you to support the routine rape and torture of these poor creatures til their deaths. Wouldn’t want to enlighten your dull, obstinate mind with all that truth now, would we?
Hi,
Unfortunately, this review of VeganPet is misguiding and outdated.
If you wish to learn more about the balanced diet VeganPet can provide for your
dog or cat, please go direct to their website.
Fortunately we live in a society where individuals have the freedom to express and follow
their own beliefs. Some people do not like to have meat or meat based products
in their homes, be it for ethical, religious or medical reasons. Prior to
VeganPet being offered on the market, pets in vegetarian homes risked missing
key nutrients and a balanced diet. Over a decade of research and development
has gone in to the VeganPet products and they continue to improve each
year.
I personally am not a vegetarian but I feed VeganPet to my two miniature
dachshunds, since feeding it their skin allergies and digestive issues have
gone away that they experienced on some of the other more expensive pet
foods.
I urge anyone to complete
thorough research and choose a dog food that is best suited to you and your
pets health
Humans impose their meat eating culture on their children everyday because they think it is the best thing for their children. Plenty of evidence now from WHO to suggest this may not be all we think it is, in other words not good for our children.
I do like the way you shifted the discussion from dogs to human children there Frances, in order to get where you wanted to go. As strawman arguments go in the vegan world, I’ll give it 6/10.
Wow Alan, you really are a twat! How dare this Frances state a simple fact.
Obviously your limited intelligence can’t handle new information being laid out so flat, and your way too busy in bed with denial. –
Well, have fun with that!
Or maybe do some actual research for yourself and discover some horrific truths you sap!
Lunatic you’re the twat! You’re enough to put off anyone off vegans and their viewpoints for life!
Alan’s going to have a field day when he sees this provided it doesn’t all get deleted, I just took the general ignore approach I guess I’ll see what she replies with tomorrow.
Oh I saw it earlier, I was going out when he/she just started and had a bit of a chuckle. I had to visit a couple of stores, fight the traffic, took the dogs for a run at a park complex nearby, did a bit in the garage then came inside hours later and this person was STILL GOING! Sadly, finding unstable vegans ranting in some corner of the internet is not exactly a rarity. In fact I’d suggest it was as easy as shooting fish in a barrel if I didn’t think that analogy would eventually trigger another one into spazzing out.
Yes unfortunately triggering people is very easy these days and they don’t just embarrass themselves once but several times.
It’s okay to have an opinion or point but spamming it is a whole other deal, it also fills up the recent comments and makes it impossible to know if someone asked for help and if perhaps it was buried.
But oh well they come and they go as long as their not spamming it 24/7, not that they can, just give them a ban hammer lol and done.
Other then that how’s the week been for you? we’re at the beach for 5 days with a pretty disabled friend, my mums been hard on her saying she needs to walk around more that people 3 times her size are walking, running, driving themselves. I do think she needs to be told she can do it, because in her head she thinks she can’t and just sits and lays down all day, eventually the body forgets how to move around, especially after several years of doing that.
I miss my Guild Wars 2 mounts it’s funny to me, because I don’t miss Warcraft at all haha.
Yup. I have this theory that there’s at least a few vegans out there who are polite, intelligent, thoughtful, well-balanced, not at all smug about it, don’t see themselves as an activist, don’t raise the subject unless it’s relevant and are extremely hesitant to irresponsibly push their diet on to an animal not as well equipped to deal with it as we are. They might even smile occasionally! These guys must spend their lives facepalming every time they encounter a fellow vegan upholding stereotypes and discrediting the movement.
I’m good thanks, being self employed every day and every week is much the same really. Weekends, holidays, public holidays, these are just words I hear other people using :p
Oh jeez not Warcraft too? All that time spent grinding levels could be spent making this nutrition thing of yours happen!
Lol great comeback.
I know people like you aren’t even capable of change.
~ Though it’s always nice to pretend isn’t it….So long as it provides you some small comfort dear
Night night
Toxic is toxic whomever is eating it.
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